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From: Stewart Legg
Sent: 13 August 2007 16:48
Subject: S.R. 4REP E.M.U STOCK
Tony
The first 11 REP units were painted in all over blue livery which was current at that time and applied to many earlier S.R. EMUs by then. It was decided after a short time of their running to repaint them into what was then standard Inter City colours (blue/grey). The last four sets built 1974/5 would have been delivered in the Inter City Scheme. The 4 VEPs, which also appeared on the Bournemouth line on the stopping services but were part of a much larger fleet of units, started to receive the Inter City livery at classified overhaul after 1971.
Although advertised in literature and on posters as 'Inter City' and being in Inter City colours, units rarely carried this branding on the sides, only the BR crests, pretty much right up until Network Southeast days when adhesives advertising this brand were added.
The REPs were impressive units turning in a good turn of speed hauling usually two 4TC sets from Bournemouth to the capital and the arrangements at Bournemouth for attaching and detaching the Weymouth portions were speedy and efficient in true Southern practice. A TC set with a 33/1 attached was also a fairly mean machine and could maintain Sprinter Unit timings when they deputised for them when the earlier classes of Sprinter proved troublesome.
The REP lived on in the Class 442 Wessex Units until their recent demise with parts of them used in the updated units. As much as the REP was the last of the Mark 1 designed electric stock so the Wessex was the last true SR EMU for main line work and hopefully they will find new fans on the Southern service to which they are going.
Hope that helps
Stewart
From: Tony Wood
Sent: 06 August 2007 07:49
".. one of .." Phil?
d:-)
Tony Wood
From: Philip Hunt
Sent: 06 August 2007 23:56
Subject: Ok then...
It is THE BEST!
The other site I visit is Swanage Railway which was my old stomping ground. Your site is superior because of your ability to answer technical questions etc.
When I visited MHR in April 2005 on my first trip back to UK in 42 years, it was my first time on the MHR even though I lived at Guildford from 1957 to 1963 when I emigrated.
My mother (90 this year) still lives in Guildford, and I found it a good base to explore the UK with my Britrail Pass. I did 57 different trains in 15 days from Dunblane to St Erth and from Bristol to Rye (for RHDR) and many places in between. I also went Waterloo to Paris to visit a cousin I hadn't seen for 42 years. On my next trip I'll get a 30 day consecutive pass and really get travelling!
Regards
Phil Hunt
I haven't heard anything about plans for #71000 to visit MHR but it is always possible for stabling and servicing for main line runs.
There's only one Bulleid coach in our current fleet - it rides very well, as you might expect from all those experiments Oliver Bulleid did.
Duncan will be pleased you commented on his paintwork on the carriages; Roger, Bernard and others have made the insides look really good too ... tw
From: Philip Hunt
Sent: 27 August 2007 00:24
Yes those lovely repainted coaches were MK 1's, I think the Swanage Railway
has quite a lot of Bullieds!
It is now time for your railway to push for re-connection near Winchester. I
have heard it said it would be impossible.
No such word as can't in the world of preservation.
You could make money out of diversions when the main line is closed for
engineering.
Any comment? Has the board ever discussed it? Has the idea been raised in
the last year?
Regards
Phil Hunt
WAIROA
New Zealand
Thank you Antonio. I have shown your e-mail to the owners of our 45-ton steam crane.
(If only my Portuguese were anywhere near as good as your English I would reply to you in your language!) ... tw
| From: Roy Bishop Sent: 27 July 2007 15:14 Subject: Visit Sunday 8th July Hi Tony My apologies for not sending this email earlier but better late than never I guess. As a young teenager I did a couple of years fairly intense train-spotting, as did many of my friends. A bunch of us got around the country quite a bit in that time until sport, girls and rock 'n' roll took precedence! I suspect none of us has lost our love of steam though. I well remember the bike rides from Newbury to Basingstoke and the thrill of being on the platform when a Merchant Navy class literally thundered through.Regular trips to Kings Cross are also remembered with great nostalgia. The wheel slip of the A4s as they attempted to get a grip was a sight to behold. I have visited the MHR a couple of times in the past year and had made a mental note of the 40th Anniversary event and then completely forgot about it. However, completely by chance (or was it subliminal forces at work) I dropped in to Ropley late afternoon on Sunday 8th July in the hope of some photographs. I quickly realised my original oversight but as most of the crowds had left and the locomotives were returning to the shed I couldn't believe my luck and set about capturing as much of the atmosphere as possible. |
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Bittern
was a wonderful sight and together with the Bulleids brought all those
memories flooding back. My two favourite locomotives in one place 47
years on. Magic!
I still have my 1960 copy of the ABC British Railways Locomotives which now has a line underneath Bittern which I never did see in the sixties. I'm sure you have received many photographs taken over that weekend but I'm attaching a few of my own anyway which attempt to depict things in a slightly different style. I hope you can use them. Many congratulations and a very big thank you to all the volunteers who make the MHR and others like it such an evocative experience for us old timers and such an exciting one for the youngsters. Kind regards Roy Bishop One Two Three Four Five |
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Sent: 24 July 2007 05:17
I recently found the Flip4Mac plug-in that Keith talks about on the Microsoft website where it is a bit more obvious that its a free
download than the Flip4mac site itself.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=915D874D-D747-4180-A400-5F06B1B5E559&displaylang=en
I find it far easier to view .wmv files this way than in Windows Media Player 9 for Mac OS X.
Regards
Phil Kitchen
| From: Michael Pearson Sent: 21 July 2007 10:14 Subject: 20th July 2007 Tony Bittern was in charge of a Wine & Dine special charter yesterday, with Dave Wiseman on the regulator and yours truly as the guard. Mike Photos
(20th July 2007): Mike Pearson
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From: Dave Oxnard
Sent: 21 July 2007 11:19
Hi Tony
Bittern looks very shiny these days, could you tell me if it has been painted with gloss paint or varnished after the paint job was done. My 00 model is nearly done but is finished in matt colour.
All the best
Dave
Brush-painted. Lots of coats with rubbing down between. Final undercoat is a mix of undercoat and gloss for extra hardness; this is then flatted ready for a top coat of gloss, brush-painted. No varnish except over the cab-side numbers transfers and the BR logo on the tender. ... tw, 21 July 2007 12:41
Haven't seen one yet, Colin, but I'll look out for one. I could publish a request for such a photo if you want? ... tw Oh go on then ... CC
From: Matt Hurst
Sent: 20 July 2007 14:53
Subject: 35008 Breakdown train
As requested
Regards
Matt
From: Mark Fry
Sent: 20 July 2007 15:34
Hi Tony,
Re Colin's request for photos of CP and the heavy crane, there's a good one at the back of the current Railway Herald (Issue 91) taken by Brian Morrison.
Cheers
Mark
From: Henry O'DwyerThis thread is now closed. Thank you all, including those whose mail does not appear here ... tw
Sent: 20 July 2007 21:46
A little bit off the Mamiya
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| From: Mark Civil Sent: 13 July 2007 14:46 Subject: Early Days photo Dear Tony I am one of the current owners of the Bagnall 2842 040 in some of the Andy Crespin early days photos. It is currently at Foxfield Light Railway undergoing heavy repair. I would be interested in any other photos that exist of this loco - mark2842ATfsmail.net I visited MHR in 2004 when Network Rail was testing stoneblower 80213, but no one on site seemed to remember the loco. Many Thanks Mark Civil |
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I’m basking here in your kind comments, Robin ! Thank you for your encouragement.
Very few people even scratch the surface of all the stuff we have on our Topsy of a website. There are currently 8222 files in 59 folders, a total of over 1200 MB.
Even with a really fast connection, it would take quite a while to see it all, so I hope you were able readily to find what interests you.
(I have to use Google as an index to find stuff on it) ... tw
There is no stock list on the website and no current plan to add one, Phil.
Stock is owned, loaned, borrowed, repaired and maintained by a variety of people and consortia.
Even if we found someone to research and compile such a list it would soon be out of date, neglected and criticised.
A decidedly thankless task ... tw
p.s. I now learn that MHR has a Stock List which it sells from our HQ in Alresford at 50p. It was last updated in June 2007 but omissions are apparent ... tw
Under our contract with its owner, Bittern stays at MHR for several years, with main line excursion duties also diagrammed. I have no information about its base after that. It is expected to be in service at MHR from next weekend (7th - 8th July 2007), demonstrating how a decent A4 hauling a heavy train copes disdainfully with 1:60 gradients. It will of course star in our 2007 Autumn Gala ... tw
Sent: 02 July 2007 10:14
No it won’t; the Schools will star
Regards
Colin Chambers
Managing Director
| From: Keith Brown Sent: 01 July 2007 21:10 Subject: Medstead & Four Marks: Sunday 1st July - Morris Day Medstead & Four Marks on a damp Sunday 1st July, with Southampton Corporation AEC Regent 5 on service. Later (and slightly less damp) the Wickham Morris performed on the platform. The first dance is called "Duck and Dive", apparently. Keith Brown |
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| From: Horace Ward Sent: 30 June 2007 19:35 Subject: Terminus and Mid Hants Dear Tony With the 40th Anniversary of the End of Steam on the Southern coming up next weekend (July 7-8th) what more proof of the existence of steam passing over the Mid Hants metals from Waterloo Station than this still from the 1961 documentary: "TERMINUS". It was director JOHN SCHLESINGER's debut as a film maker. The short (33mins) film went on to win many awards for the day in the life of Waterloo Station. During the film the manually-operated mainline destination board clearly shows: ROPLEY, MEDSTEAD, ALRESFORD and ITCHEN ABBAS on the way to Winchester as stopping points. Dr.Beeching's cuts were still another 12 years away. "Terminus" is evidence of a bygone age of steam seen at the famous station over 45 years ago. My best wishes Horace |
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From: Martin Taylor Thank you Martin. Much appreciated
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More than a fair share of misfortune with the Thumper: first the replacement wheelset we bought did not fit; now the original wheels have new tyres which are too wide and these are currently being machined.
Whilst the A4 is in the wheeldrop shed it has no fire.
A warming fire is lit on the day before steam is raised because boilers suffer thermal stress if heated or cooled too rapidly. Raising steam does not necessarily mean it will run ... tw
| From: Matthew Myatt Sent: 17 June 2007 00:54 Hi Tony Is the A4 still with you guys, if so what days is it available for viewing? I have twin 8 year old autistic boys who are just mad about A4's but have never seen a real one. Would love to bring them up as this would be something they would never forget. Best Wishes Matthew S Myatt (MRPS) (MBFP) 17th June 2007 |
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"Stowe" performed with distinction on the Waterloo - Weymouth expresses. It holds the highest speed authenticated for the class - 95 mph - which wasBest regards
attained near Wool under the hand of Driver Guy on a four-coach train from Dorchester to Wareham, the 15 miles taking no more than 13¼ minutes.
From: Colin Charman
Sent: 24 June 2007 21:43
As one of the volunteers on duty on the days of Dave Humphries' and Louisa Richards' visits, I'd just like to say how much I appreciate the recognition for ALL of the volunteers that helped make their visits so enjoyable. It's the way that everyone pulls together that makes it so rewarding to be a volunteer on our railway.
I should add that the accordion-playing guard was actually a Ticket Inspector - the Guards take their responsibility for safety very seriously and stay focussed on their job; the Ticket Inspectors are privileged to be able to spend time with our visitors.
We do have an accordion-playing guard and a concertina-playing signalman too (but not whilst on duty!)
To answer Dave's question: We do have quite extensive carriage sidings, but as its War-on-the-Line today I'm afraid I couldn't possibly reveal their location due to the threat of "adverse enemy action".
Regards,
Colin Charman
Ticket Inspector and occasional Melodion player
| From: Ken Alexander Sent: 19 June 2007 19:46 Hi Tony Came down on Sunday to see Bittern. She looks magnificent and everybody concerned must feel realy proud. Also had my first run behind Wadebridge and she sounded great climbing up from Alton. Here are a few of the shots I took. Cheers Ken |
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The ban continues on photography within the railway’s boundaries as set out on our website. NO PASSES ARE ISSUED.
MHR has approved a very few officially appointed photographers with current MHR Personal Track Safety Certificates. Some members of staff (with PTS Certs) take photos whilst on duty lineside. Some of the best photographs taken ‘East of Alresford’ have been taken from outside MHR property. Your webmaster is careful to exclude from the website any photographs taken in breach of the rules. Thank you for giving the opportunity to once again clarify this matter ... tw, 17 June 2007 17:14
Thank you for your comments, Peter.
Our booking website is separate from the original site, is commercially run for MHR and is updated in its details directly by MHR Marketing and Reservations Depts. On-line booking works to different objectives and is intended to allow (e.g.) busy mums to complete transactions with the minimum number of ‘clicks’. They don’t have the luxury of being able to include anything relevant, nor the development period of our Topsy (“I just growed”) of a site. I've forwarded your comments to them.
Maintaining the ‘old’ pages is not an option because they could never be synchronised satisfactorily.
The good news is that the new system hit the ground running and is proving even more popular than we’d dared hope. Win some, lose some, I suppose.
... tw, 10 June 2007 07:42
Dear Tony
Many thanks for your prompt reply and I do now see a bit more clearly than I did last night! By pressing the 'Book Now' I have all the information I need, so my apologies .... Peter, 10/06/2007 12:32
| From: Dave Suart Sent: 08 June 2007 00:08 Subject: Bittern Hi Tony You probably have a stack of these but here goes anyways. Talk about Emotive power! Dave |
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| From: Matt Allen Sent: 07 June 2007 19:20 Subject: First flight.... Hi Tony I received a tip-off at work today so had to hastily make it to Ropley. Just caught 60019 returning from M4M after its long awaited first run. Some people must be very proud of the work they've put in Regards Matt |
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Yes, Andy: Bob Cartwright took some video on #60019 footplate on the run to Medstead - see Loco Shed page ... tw
Sent: 04 June 2007 11:22
Hi Tony
I take it that the letter/photo was not up to scratch. For future reference, what are your criteria for submissions?
Many thanks
Craig Nobbs
Sent: 04 June 2007 12:11
Hello Craig
Please don’t be disappointed if your photo(s) are not published on our website. I do like the gates photo you sent, but haven’t yet found a place for it.
‘Criteria’ sounds a bit formal to me; I’m not exactly sure what my criteria are, to tell the truth! Friends locally or in other countries like to follow MHR’s progress, and I deliberately include some ‘this England’ pictures for all the ex-pats who regularly browse our website.
I do mentally sort photos into two categories: news and art. The standard for ‘news’ photos is simply something newsworthy (submitted very soon after it was taken) and of interest. Later submissions need a far higher standard to rate inclusion.
Of course I get a lot of photos sent in which are technically poor (shaken, badly-composed, degraded by editing) but can correct many faults here if the photo is worth it (getting uprights upright, cropping – that sort of thing).
Have a look at the photos we have on the website already and you’ll be able to pick out the better photographers’ work by their WOW factor. Recent pictures by Henry O’Dwyer, John H Bird, Horace Ward, Matt Allen, Cliff Thomas and Dave Warwick spring to mind ... tw
From: Ian Coward
Sent: 11 June 2007 10:24
Subject: Ropley Crossing
Dear Tony
Just a word of thanks on behalf of the Wednesday Gang to Craig Nobbs for his appreciation of our work at Ropley (29/05) and his excellent photo. You see work does get done between the tea breaks!
Regards
Ian Coward
CliveThe Ivatt taken through the cab of the Class 5 with other locos in the background
Pete and I waiting for the road to leave Ropley with the RAT
From: Phil Harding
Sent: 04 June 2007 17:14
Tony
I have to say that the pink bib and brace as modelled by Pete works really well with the knotted hanky. Sort of that 1950's housewife look....
Phil
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From: Matt Bentley Sent: 30 May 2007 23:01 I took my kids on the Mid Hants on Tuesday 29th May 2007 and as always they loved it. The added bonus was their uncle was driving #73096. All the Best Matt Bentley |
From: Philip Harding
Sent: 23 May 2007 19:41
Lovely photo of CP + the Hobbits. Well done Tom. I think that the Rangers we've had for the last year or longer have been some of the most committed, funny and willing people we've had on the railway. They take everything us grumpy old chuck at them and still manage to have fun. Well done lads!
Phil
EXTRACT from http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DUR/Consett/Works5.html#a12
The locomotives and locomotive cranes are for convenience divided into classes, the locomotives into A B C, and the locomotive cranes into D and E, the entire number in use being forty-three. Of the locomotives, the A class, six in number, are the most powerful, having all six coupled wheels. Four of them have cylinders 16-in. diameter by 24-in. stroke, with wheels 3-ft. 11-in. diameter. The other two have cylinders 171/2-in. diameter by 25-in. stroke, with wheels 4-ft. 2-in. diameter. They are all inside cylinder tank engines, and were built by Kitson & Company, of Leeds. Each weighs about 36 tons, and they are chiefly used in working the traffic. between the collieries and the works, and hauling the ore to the blastfurnaces.
The B class are outside cylinder tank engines, weighing about 25 tons, with four coupled wheels 3-ft. 4-in. diameter, the cylinders being 12-in. diameter by 19-in. stroke. They are used principally about the mills for shunting purposes and delivering the steel and iron, &c., on to the North-Eastern Railway.
They have been built by various makers, namely, Black, Hawthorn, & Co., Gateshead; Robert Stephenson & Co., and Hawthorn, Leslie, & Co., Newcastle-on-Tyne; and John Harris, Darlington.
The C class, four in number, are tank engines of a similar design to the B class, having outside cylinders 9-in. diameter by 16-in. stroke, and four coupled wheels 2-ft. 10-in. diameter. They are used exclusively about the blast-furnaces, and were built by Black, Hawthorn, & Co. The D locomotive cranes include three types built respectively by Dubs & Company, Glasgow (four) ; Black, Hawthorn, & Co. (one); and T. Smith, of Rodley (three).
From: Stephen Hoadley
Sent: 22 May 2007 19:38
Mr Moules may like to have a look at www.ntsra.org.uk/stock.html, where he will find details of the CISC A Class locomotive No. 5 preserved by the North Tyneside Steam Railway Association. A fine old engine indeed.
Regards
Stephen Hoadley
From: Phill Brentor
Sent: 20 May 2007 01:08
Subject: Bittern
Hi Tony
Great to see a fire in it's belly!!!
Congrats to all who made it happen....I look forward to seeing it passing through Peterborough
Regards
Phill