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From: David Snow
Sent: 19 August 2007 22:44
Subject: A nice story
Tony
Whilst at Alton station on Monday selling tickets I got into
conversation with a gent plus his young son having a slight foreign
accent. I asked him where he came from and his answer was Slovakia.
Apparently his son is mad keen on Thomas so a visit to a Day Out With
Thomas event took priority over a beach holiday in Greece.
He resorted to the Internet looking for an event near a big airport and
came up with the Mid Hants. He then found a B&B in Alton again
using our website.
The two of them flew to Stansted, had a brief visit to London and then
took the train to Alton. They had all day Sunday and again
Monday
on the railway and thoroughly enjoyed themselves. Jim Russell gave them
a bird’s eye view of the line from the front of Daisy on
Monday
morning’s trip. The B&B owner did them proud by
driving them
to the station on Monday morning.
Come Tuesday they were back at Alton for a last farewell to Henry
before taking the train back to London en route to the airport and home.
A good story of the MHR helping the UK export drive and local trade in
Alton.
Regards
David
(MHR Volunteer)
From: Dave Morton
Sent: 17 August 2007 14:48
Subject: Thomas Day Out,
15th August 2007
Can you pass on my thanks to all the "Watercress" staff working
yesterday: I thought that considerable planning and effort had gone
into coping with so many visitors and an excellent job was made of it -
including leaving the car park
The attached picture sums up the day: Can Pac in disguise
arriving at Ropley from Alresford at 10.44
Well done
Dave Morton
From: Anne Qua
Sent: 15 August 2007 08:54
Subject: Day Out With Thomas
Hi there
Just wanted to write and say that myself, my mum and my 3 year old
daughter visited Thomas yesterday and had a wonderful day out despite
the rain. My daughter is still waving her flag and shouting
"Thomas, Thomas" this morning.
This is our second visit to this event and I'm sure we'll be back again
next year too!
A special thanks also to all the staff who are all so friendly and
really help to make the day go well - you are all so dedicated to your
roles.
Kind regards
Anne Qua
From: Matt Allen
Sent: 14 August 2007 13:16
Subject: Photo Exhibition
Hi Tony
Just to let you know I've currently got a photo exhibition running at
Basingstoke Library (in the town centre). The exhibition is
solely on the Mid Hants and features pictures from my new book. It will
be running up until 27 Aug - entry is free!
Regards
Matt
From: Tony Kerwood
Sent: 12 August 2007 10:46
Subject: Thomas and Friends
Hi Tony,
Didn't see you taking many photos from your lofty position under the
green gazebo. From my vantage point in the Toad brake van I managed
some different pics from previous years. Hope you can use these three.
It was a very good day. Having Thomas giving rides with a coach
certainly took the pressure off Toad brake van rides and avoided
disappointing visitors who had queued for a long time only to find the
rides stopped for the arrival of 'big engine' trains.
Kindest regards
Tony
From: Maggie Webb
Sent: 11 August 2007 20:48
Subject: Thank you
Today our family, son, daughter-in-law, 2 year old grandson and
ourselves, Nana and Brian, came to see Thomas and friends.
What a wonderful day we all had. When I saw all the cars I must admit I
thought it would be a bit of a scramble, but the day unfolded and Milo
so enjoyed his birthday treat. To see his little face light up every
time he saw a choo choo will stay with me for a long time.
A big thank-you to everyone who made our day so enjoyable - the
organisation is a credit to you all.
Thank you
Yours sincerely
Maggie and Brian Webb
From: Peter
Cutler
Sent: 12 August 2007 08:12
Subject: Bournemouth electrification
Hi Tony
Can one of your 'readers' answer a query regarding a picture on the 40th Anniversary
pages.
As if losing steam from the Southern in summer 1967 wasn't bad enough
the BR Board took another decision which upset a lot of people. They
effectively demoted the Bournemouth line to a secondary route (along
with the already decimated West of England line from Salisbury to
Exeter.) To reinforce this move, the new express REP/TC stock
introduced w.e.f. 10th July 1967 was in all-over blue for some time
rather than the express livery of blue & grey on main lines.
The poster shown towards the bottom of your anniversary section says it
is Inter City.
Can anyone explain how all that hung together?
Thanks
Pete
From:
Stewart Legg
Sent: 13 August 2007 16:48
Subject: S.R. 4REP E.M.U STOCK
Tony
The first 11 REP units were painted in all over blue livery which
was current at that time and applied to many earlier S.R. EMUs by then.
It was decided after a short time of their running to repaint them into
what was then standard Inter City colours (blue/grey). The last four
sets built 1974/5 would have been delivered in the Inter City
Scheme. The 4 VEPs, which also appeared on the
Bournemouth line
on the stopping services but were part of a much larger fleet of units,
started to receive the Inter City livery at classified overhaul after
1971.
Although advertised in literature and on posters as 'Inter City' and
being in Inter City colours, units rarely carried this branding on the
sides, only the BR crests, pretty much right up until Network Southeast
days when adhesives advertising this brand were added.
The REPs were impressive units turning in a good turn of speed hauling
usually two 4TC sets from Bournemouth to the capital and the
arrangements at Bournemouth for attaching and detaching the Weymouth
portions were speedy and efficient in true Southern practice. A TC set
with a 33/1 attached was also a fairly mean machine and could maintain
Sprinter Unit timings when they deputised for them when the earlier
classes of Sprinter proved troublesome.
The REP lived on in the Class 442 Wessex Units until their recent
demise with parts of them used in the updated units. As much as the REP
was the last of the Mark 1 designed electric stock so the Wessex was
the last true SR EMU for main line work and hopefully they will find
new fans on the Southern service to which they are going.
Hope that helps
Stewart
From:
Philip Hunt
Sent: 06 August 2007 03:05
Subject: 60019...
Have just watched the short video clip
of Bittern
from your site. What a magnificent sight she makes, the five
Bulleid coaches she was hauling looked as though they had all recently
been repainted.
The loco doesn't look at all out of place miles from her old stomping
ground, and I'll bet she has no trouble "over the Alps" either!
I hope to make a visit in about two years from now, and hope that No19
will still be around. I also hope to see 71000 DoG in steam, is she
likely to be at MHR in the summer of 2009?
Once again well done to all the staff and volunteeers at MHR, and
thanks for your excellent web-site Tony. Without doubt it is one of the
best railway sites I visit.
Regards
Phil Hunt
From:
Tony Wood
Sent: 06 August 2007 07:49
".. one of .." Phil?
d:-)
Tony Wood
From:
Philip Hunt
Sent: 06 August 2007 23:56
Subject: Ok then...
It is THE BEST!
The other site I visit is Swanage Railway which was my old stomping
ground. Your site is superior because of your ability to answer
technical questions etc.
When I visited MHR in April 2005 on my first trip back to UK in 42
years, it was my first time on the MHR even though I lived at Guildford
from 1957 to 1963 when I emigrated.
My mother (90 this year) still lives in Guildford, and I found it a
good base to explore the UK with my Britrail Pass. I did 57 different
trains in 15 days from Dunblane to St Erth and from Bristol to Rye (for
RHDR) and many places in between. I also went Waterloo to Paris to
visit a cousin I hadn't seen for 42 years. On my next trip I'll get a
30 day consecutive pass and really get travelling!
Regards
Phil Hunt
I
haven't heard anything
about plans for #71000 to visit MHR but it is always possible for
stabling and servicing for main line runs.
There's only one Bulleid coach in our current fleet - it rides very
well, as you might expect from all those experiments Oliver Bulleid
did.
Duncan will be pleased you commented on his paintwork on the carriages;
Roger, Bernard and others have made the insides look really good too
... tw
From:
Philip Hunt
Sent: 27 August 2007 00:24
Yes those lovely repainted coaches were MK 1's, I
think the Swanage Railway
has quite a lot of Bullieds!
It is now time for your railway to push for
re-connection near Winchester. I
have heard it said it would be impossible.
No such word as can't in the world of preservation.
You could make money out of diversions when the
main line is closed for
engineering.
Any comment? Has the board ever discussed it? Has
the idea been raised in
the last year?
Regards
Phil Hunt
WAIROA
New Zealand
From: Antonio Edson
Laurindo dos Santos
Sent: 01 August 2007 02:50
Subject: Good notice from Brasil ( About Ramsomes)
Hi,
You don't know me, but as I visited your page on the net, about
Ransomes & Rapier, I had to write for you.
Here in Brasil, the old Sorocabana Railway had one Steam Crane
Ransomes, built in 1928, to runs in the metre gauge line. This crane
was working till 1999, but when the railway decided to remove from
Botucatu City to the city of Santos, near the harbour, the crew that
worked the crane refused to change the city, because all the workers
were near retirement, and the crane was stored at Sorocaba City for 3
years. Two years ago, the "Associação Brasileira
de
Preservação Ferroviária" (the
Brazilian Railway
Preservation Society) could get the old crane and now the crane is in
working order again (some parts had been stolen) and preserved at
Carlos Gomes Station. It needs to be painted and we want do do it soon.
Here in our society, we have 2 steam compound 4-6-0 locomotives for
metre gauge, built by The Beyer & Peacock Company, but on our
another branch line we have one Sharp Stewart 0-6-0 ST built in 1867.
The society have almost 50 steam, electric and diesel locomotives, plus
almost 200 cars and wagons as rolling stock, but not all of this near
Campinas City, where I live.
Thank you for your attention.
Antonio Edson Laurindo dos Santos
Thank
you Antonio. I have shown your e-mail to the owners of our 45-ton steam
crane.
(If only my Portuguese were anywhere near as good as your English I
would reply to you in your language!) ... tw
From: Matthew Hurst
Sent: 31 July 2007 07:44
Subject: Interesting picture of Barry Scrapyard
Tony
I found a link for this
photo taken at Dai Woodhams scrapyard in March 1973 showing 35005
Canadian Pacific and 5MT 73096 together. 30+ years later and
they are together again. What a difference they are now
compared to this shot?
Regards
Matthew Hurst
From: Ian Scott
Sent: 28 July 2007 21:00
Subject: Bittern
Thought you might like the picture of Alastair
in the firebox of Bittern on 27th July.
Incidentally, Mike, Greg, Jeremy and I cleaned
it that day.
Ian Scott
From: Roy Bishop
Sent: 27 July 2007 15:14
Subject: Visit Sunday 8th July
Hi Tony
My apologies for not sending this email earlier but better late than
never I guess.
As
a young teenager I did a couple of years fairly intense train-spotting,
as did many of my friends. A bunch of us got around the country quite a
bit in that time until sport, girls and rock 'n' roll took precedence!
I suspect none of us has lost our love of steam though.
I well
remember the bike rides from Newbury to Basingstoke and the thrill of
being on the platform when a Merchant Navy class literally thundered
through.Regular trips to Kings Cross are also remembered with great
nostalgia. The wheel slip of the A4s as they attempted to get a grip
was a sight to behold.
I have visited the MHR a couple of times in
the past year and had made a mental note of the 40th Anniversary event
and then completely forgot about it. However, completely by chance (or
was it subliminal forces at work) I dropped in to Ropley late afternoon
on Sunday 8th July in the hope of some photographs. I quickly realised
my original oversight but as most of the crowds had left and the
locomotives were returning to the shed I couldn't believe my luck and
set about capturing as much of the atmosphere as possible.
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Bittern
was a wonderful sight and together with the Bulleids brought all those
memories flooding back. My two favourite locomotives in one place 47
years on. Magic!
I still have my 1960 copy of the ABC British
Railways Locomotives which now has a line underneath Bittern which I
never did see in the sixties.
I'm sure you have received many
photographs taken over that weekend but I'm attaching a few of my own
anyway which attempt to depict things in a slightly different style. I
hope you can use them.
Many congratulations and a very big thank you
to all the volunteers who make the MHR and others like it such an
evocative experience for us old timers and such an exciting one for the
youngsters.
Kind regards
Roy Bishop
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From: Bev Pease
Sent: 25 July 2007 14:39
Subject: Railways are one of the Great Inventions of Mankind
Hi Tony
I'm a life member of the
Railway. I'm not active any more. But I've included
on my site, A TIMELINE FOR THE PLANET, a page on
the history of the railways.
Obviously I'm biased. It was my great-great grandfather who
gave
George Stephenson his big chance. But to me, the harnessing
of
steam and the railways are one of the Great Inventions of Mankind -- up
there with writing and the wheel. And my page is partly
designed
to reflect this.
I'm hoping that you might be interested in providing a link to it, or
in adapting it for inclusion on your site.
Your comments on netiquette successfully put me off attaching the page,
and unfortunately I'm not into tinyurl yet - its address is; www.bevpease.force9.co.uk/p.Steam.htm *
Being a recent development, 'Steam' is down at the bottom of the list. *NB: New URL (Jan 08) ... tw
I do hope you like it
Bev Pease
I
do, Bev. Thank you ... tw
From: Philip Harding
Sent: 24 July 2007 21:04
Subject: CanPac's cleaning today
- video
Tony
I'm glad that the condition of Can Pac was noticed - however the truth
must out:
As is usual on this crew, when the time came for the cleaning to be
done the driver unfortunately found lots of important driverly things
to do, and the fireman needed to make lots of black smoke. Consequently
the thing was cleaned by Matt (cleaner on the
loco), ably assisted by Ranger Mark.
Thanks to them for a grand job.
I did clean a gauge glass though....
Phil
From: HAZEL LAVINGTON
Sent: 23 July 2007 20:08
To: Watercress Line Information
Subject: A Little Note to Say Thank You.
Dear Everyone at the Watercress Line
Just a little note to say Thank You very much for a really enjoyable
day on the line yesterday, Sunday 22nd July.
My husband booked two tickets back in January for Sunday Lunch on the
Countryman Pullman Car No 351 and we had a truly enjoyable and
pleasurable day.
We arrived at Alresford Station at just before 11.00 so that we could
have a trip to the sheds at Ropley and return back to Alresford before
our lunch train was due to depart. However the sheds got
forgotten in the excitement of seeing the very gorgeous Bittern in
glorious steam. Needless to say this meant that we altered
our
original plans and enjoyed a whole run to Alton and back. The
Ticket Collector pulled our legs that we might just not make it back to
Alresford for our lunch! However as we had cunningly spotted
Bodmin being steamed up in Ropley we knew if something did go wrong
then it would have been Bodmin sent to rescue us!
The trip on Bittern was simply great, she obviously is really itching
to get on the mainline. The Driver just loved tooting the
whistle
and showing off to people watching the train along the route.
It
has been great to see such a beautiful machine slowly
restored to
full glory again over the past few years. A great deal of
time
and hard work has gone into getting her back to her former glory and
splendour so the whole team of volunteers who have done all the hard
work deserve a BIG THANK YOU.
Fortunately we didn't need to be rescued by Bodmin and Bittern made it
safely back to Alresford with time to spare.
Lunch was a delightful, pleasant, relaxing
experience. The
Staff were all very helpful and friendly and they even coped with my
non-lamb lunch. Some companies don't pass on messages about
food
preferences to the staff on duty that day but your team of volunteers
did you proud. It was wonderful to be given the choice of
Roast
Chicken or the Salmon Fillet that I chose as a option, especially as
the train had already left the station, so congratulations to the chef
on creating a great delicious meal on the move. Needless to
say we
are looking forward to doing this trip again in 2008! We
await
the new timetable in anticipation!
Once again Thanks to everyone on the team yesterday, keep up the
excellent work! It's a pity that sometimes staff being paid
to do
a job can't demonstrate the same interpersonal skills as all your team
of volunteers did yesterday.
Hazel and Graham Lavington
From: Alan Daniel
Sent: 22 July 2007 13:11
Subject: Bittern
Hi Tony
Thought you might be interested in this shot of Bittern
arriving at Ropley, taken looking through the country end
windows of Ropley 'B'
signalbox
Photo was taken yesterday 21st July and Bittern was
working the 1543 ex Alresford
Alan Daniel
MHR Signalman
From: Keith Brown
Sent: 23 July 2007 21:43
Subject: .wmv
for Mac
Tony - we spoke at the AGM about the difficulty which Mac users can
have in viewing .wmv
video clips on the MHR website.
I've found that the "Flip4Mac" wmv tools for
Quicktime work well with OS10.4.
These can be downloaded from www.flip4mac.com. The
basic viewer plugin is free (this isn't very obvious on the website)
but you have to pay for the other tools in the package if you want
them. Excellent PDF documentation is included.
KB
Thank
you Keith. Let's hope they don't all catch up with web-movies at the same time and overload the servers!
d:-) ... tw
From: Dave Oxnard
Sent: 22 July 2007 12:15
Subject: pics
Hello Tony
Here are some pics I found today from your line: the guy in one of them
is my good friend Pat from London. I think that it is 1999, but could
be 2000 too, just not sure. The pic of the tender with the three period
logos on it is a favorite of mine as it shows the logos from Southern
to late BR, all three are there...very unusual to see that..
The rest are standard stuff, taken with a Canon RT 35mm film camera: I
use digital now of course. The US loco was further up the line and the
guys driving it should be able to say when that was.
Hope you have a good day mate, and the weather stays dry: its very wet
here at the moment; we had 10mm of rain last night.
All the best
Dave
NL
From: Stephen Leek
Sent: 21 July 2007 18:20
Subject: Bittern
Tony
I took this shot of Bittern
taking water at Ropley this afternoon
Stephen
From: Michael Pearson
Sent: 21 July 2007 10:14
Subject: 20th July 2007
Tony
Bittern
was in charge of a Wine & Dine special charter yesterday, with Dave
Wiseman on the regulator and yours truly as the
guard.
Mike
Photos
(20th July 2007): Mike Pearson
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From: Dave Oxnard
Sent: 19 July 2007 22:27
Subject: Bittern
Great movies Tony..!!
Really good stuff... love the noises from the shed crew ... thats just
what I feel like too.
Bittern looks truly fantastic and in Brunswick Green
too, a
great choice for most of us who spotted this loco back in the 1950's up
in Newcastle. She was a big favorite with all of us, and it is amazing
the wonderful work you all have done to restore her to even more glory
than in the old days; absolutely fantastic!!
Bittern meant much more to me than SNG
ever did as I saw her many times in Geordieland when a lad and I can't
ever remember ever seeing SNG in those days.
Its a real treat to see her back and looking so beautiful, probably
better than she did when outshopped at Doncaster when built.
I am converting one of my model A4s to Bittern to
mimic the real thing.
Thanks Tony, wonderful stuff.
Long live steam..!! Remember thats when we had a working railway..
Dave
NL
From:
Dave Oxnard
Sent: 21 July 2007 11:19
Hi Tony
Bittern looks very shiny these days, could you tell me if it has been
painted with gloss paint or varnished after the paint job was done. My
00 model is nearly done but is finished in matt colour.
All the best
Dave
Brush-painted.
Lots of coats with rubbing down between. Final undercoat is a mix of undercoat and gloss
for extra hardness; this is then flatted ready for a top coat of gloss,
brush-painted. No varnish except over the cab-side numbers transfers
and the BR logo on the tender. ... tw, 21 July 2007 12:41
From: Colin
Chambers
Sent: 18 July 2007 09:50
Subject: End of SR Steam
Tony
Excellent page on the website.
Looks like we made a lot of people very happy - I have never received
so much positive correspondence.
Only one thing missing, did anybody get a photo of "35008" on the
breakdown train? I'd like a copy if possible.
Regards
Colin Chambers
Managing Director
Mid Hants Railway plc 'Watercress Line' (part-owner of DS1580 ... tw)
Haven't
seen one yet, Colin,
but I'll look out for one. I could publish a request for such a photo
if you want? ... tw Oh go on then ... CC
From: Matt Hurst
Sent: 20 July 2007 14:53
Subject: 35008 Breakdown train
As requested
Regards
Matt
From:
Mark Fry
Sent: 20 July
2007 15:34
Hi Tony,
Re Colin's
request for photos of CP and the heavy crane, there's a good one at the
back of the current Railway
Herald (Issue 91) taken by Brian Morrison.
Cheers
Mark
From: Henry O'Dwyer
Sent: 20 July 2007 21:46
A
little bit off the Mamiya
H
This thread is now closed.
Thank you all, including those whose mail does not appear
here ... tw
From: Lorenzo Bizzi
Sent: 17 July 2007 22:08
Subject: Thanks for the fantastic trip.
Dear volunteers of Watercress Line
I travelled on your railway on the 5th of July on a steam train
(Service 1) and I'm saying it was marvellous.
I
appreciated not only the train but the care you dedicate to stations
too. Visiting them seems like going back in time to fifty (or more)
years ago. (Me too)
I'm a member of a club doing in Italy the same
things you do there, but not as well organized as the Watercress Line.
Moreover, Italian railway rules don't allow our club to restore or use
old stations. Unfortunately, my videocamera isn't so good for
photos.
Yours sincerely
Lorenzo Bizzi
Figline Valdarno (Italy)
From: Mark Civil
Sent: 13 July 2007 14:46
Subject: Early Days photo
Dear Tony
I am one of
the current owners of the Bagnall 2842 040 in some of the
Andy Crespin early days photos.
It is currently at Foxfield
Light Railway undergoing heavy
repair.
I would be interested in any other photos that exist of this
loco - mark2842ATfsmail.net
I visited MHR in 2004 when Network Rail was testing stoneblower
80213, but no one on site seemed to remember the loco.
Many Thanks
Mark Civil |
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From: Martin
Macqueen
Sent: 10 July 2007 22:08
Subject: 40th Anniversary gala
Hello Tony
Sorry this is a little late! I would like you to pass on my extreme
thanks to all concerned on what was a fantastic event. The authenticity
of the loco's was superb, faultless running and brilliantly organised.
The freight and breakdown train was also much appreciated.
I used to be a working volunteer and had my induction the same day as
you, unfortunately living 50 miles away, getting married and work
commitments took their toll!
Please say hello to Keith Loughlin who I used to fire for. I really
miss not being involved and Sunday has really made me determined to
make the effort to come back more often. The line is really looking
superb and is a credit to all who put in so much effort for everyone to
enjoy.
Again please pass my best wishes to all involved, it was the best day
out I have had at a steam line for ages.
Very Best Regards
Martin Macqueen
Didcot
From: Andrew Padfield
Sent: 10 July 2007 10:08
Subject: Saturday 7th July
Dear Tony
Though I'm not a dyed in the wool Southern aficionado I must
congratulate everyone concerned on such a fabulous day. The
organisation could not be faulted and I spent the greater part of the
day by the railings at Ropley loco depot happily watching the action
unfold before me. Visitors had clearly travelled from far and wide and
much pleasure was gained from overhearing conversations in accents from
Cornwall to Lancashire, fiercely debating the merits of their various
favourite locos, from L & Y Pugs to GWR Granges!
I have visited the MHR many times, and the thing that always strikes me
is the friendliness and helpfulness of all the staff, both paid and
volunteer.
Regards
Andrew Padfield
MORE LETTERS
& PHOTOS from 40th Anniversary (End of SR Steam) EVENT
From: Henry O'Dwyer
Sent: 08 July 2007 20:12
Subject: #60019 Saturday Alton
Hi Tony
Just the one for now. #19 with her 2nd train to Alton.
It's the digital shot just before the Mamiya shot, which I will not see
until next week. (Hope I've got it right)
Full marks to everyone involved at the railway for putting
on a bl**dy good show.
What a turn out as well, haven't seen numbers like that for several
years.
You've got the formula now, so re-number a few locos, dirty them up,
and outshop a fresh A4 every year; hey presto.
Rgds
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From: Michael Pearson
Sent: 07 July 2007 14:59
Subject: 40th Anniversary
Tony
The "crew" (and you will know what I mean!!) wait for the off
from the guard with the
first train of the day in the up
direction at Ropley.
Mike
From: Andy Crespin
Sent: 06 July 2007 23:47
Subject: Dirty locos
Hi Tony
Re Dave's pics of the nameless
loco's at Ropley......Evocative !
Andy
From: Robin HAWKINS
Sent: 04 July 2007 13:01
Tony
What a fantastic job you have made of the Watercress web site.
Congratulations to you.
Best Wishes
Robin Hawkins
I’m
basking here in your kind comments, Robin ! Thank you for
your encouragement.
Very few people even scratch the surface of all the stuff we have on
our Topsy of a website. There are currently 8222 files in 59 folders, a
total of over 1200 MB.
Even with a really fast connection, it would take quite a while to see
it all, so I hope you were able readily to find what interests you.
(I have to use Google as an index to find stuff on it) ... tw
From: Martin Beckett
Sent: 04 July 2007 12:25
Subject: Arthur Blake
The news of Arthur's passing was very sad. He was a
marvellous
man, dedicated to the Railway and a friend an example to everyone who
knew him.
I had the good fortune to work with Arthur during my time on station
duties, and later when on joining the TTIs it was often my pleasure to
find Arthur as my guard.
One other memory of Arthur (I think it must have been in one of the
D-Day anniversary years but I can't remember which one) was of him
telling us how he watched the great waves of planes passing overhead on
their way to Normandy to support the Allied landings. "We could tell
there was something big on" - was Arthur's comment.
Not for nothing was he known to us as 'King Arthur'. We shall
miss you.
Martin Beckett
From: Phil Scott
Sent: 03 July 2007 11:54
Subject: Stock list on MHR website?
Hi
I
was browsing the MHR website today. Is there a stock list, particularly
for wagons and coaches, as I could not find one?
If there is not a
stock list, is this something you intend to add at a later
date?
Many thanks
Phil Scott
There
is no stock list on the website and no current plan to add one, Phil.
Stock is owned, loaned, borrowed, repaired and maintained by a variety
of people and consortia.
Even if we found someone to research and compile such a list it would
soon be out of date, neglected and criticised.
A decidedly thankless task ... tw
p.s. I now
learn that MHR has a
Stock List which it sells from our HQ in Alresford at 50p. It was last
updated in June 2007 but omissions are apparent ... tw
From: "maaate"
Sent: 03 July 2007 11:10 (to MHR HQ)
To whom it may concern, I have just seen a photograph in this
month's Railway
Magazine of Bittern and was lost
for words - she looked absolutely spectacular.
I turned the page and just said: "WOW !"
Having seen the restoration progress from passing trains, I was amazed
at how fantastic she looks, a real credit to everyone involved.
Well done !
From: David Allsop
Sent: 02 July 2007 09:30
Subject: Ropley Motive Power Depot
Tony
The enclosed digital photograph was taken on the evening of Tuesday
26th June 2007.
What a line up of locomotives; how many other preserved railways can
say they have three working Bulleid Pacifics?
Steam railways cannot get much better than this, a tribute to the Mid
Hants Railway's hard work and dedication.
Regards
David Allsop
From:
Peter Cutler
Sent: 03 July
2007 21:27
Fantastic shot
of David Allsop's.
Could we get
the Loco Dept to pull Swanage
up into the middle road and get David to re-take the photo?
That would be
brilliant
Pete Cutler
No
... tw d:-)
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From: Andy Crespin
Sent: 02 July 2007 09:24
Subject: 40th Anniversary
Hi Tony
This coming weekend, is yet another day that I 'should' be at Ropley,
but sadly can't be. Is it really 40 years since the end of Southern
Steam ? I remember it so well. The dirty worn out loco's, with all
plates removed or stolen, and knowing that come July 10th I would have
to find a new hobby, as Southampton Central would never be the same
again !
So much has changed since those far off days. Most, not for the better.
At least through those early pioneer preservationists, we can see once
again, Bulleid Pacifics at work. Of course, there are many other steam
locos that have been saved, but to us BR(S) fans, it has to be the
Bulleids, Standards and the little USA tanks that flew the flag for the
last of steam in our neck of the woods.
As I write this, miles away from UK, it is July 2nd, and on this day 40
years ago I watched Clan Line and Orient Line haul the last two BR
specials through Southampton. Steam had a week to go, until on Sunday
9th the last steam passenger train headed for Waterloo behind
35030..............
It's a pity you can't make 34016 into 34021, (which worked the last
steam Boat Train out of the docks) and 35005 into 35030 (without plates
of course) for the weekend.
I am hoping that Ron Neal will be putting my 'Farewell Southern Steam'
headboard on a suitable loco.
Anyway, I just thought I would let you know that I will be thinking
about what is happening, and to wish you all well.
Cheers,
Andy
(in New Zealand)
From: Andrew Harvey
Sent: 01 July 2007 23:18
Subject: Bittern at MHR
Hello Tony
I
was just wondering, is Bittern going to be
permanently based at the
MHR, or is her owner taking her somewhere else?
And will she be running
at the MHR Autumn Steam Gala?
Thank you
Andrew Harvey, Worcester Park
Under
our contract with its owner, Bittern
stays at MHR for several years, with main line excursion duties also
diagrammed. I have no information about its base after that. It is
expected to be in service at MHR from next weekend (7th - 8th July
2007), demonstrating how a decent A4 hauling a heavy train copes
disdainfully with 1:60 gradients. It will of course star in our 2007
Autumn Gala ... tw
Sent:
02 July 2007 10:14
No it won’t; the Schools will star
Regards
Colin Chambers
Managing Director
From: Keith Brown
Sent: 01 July 2007 21:56
Subject: Mike Pearson's
carriage page
Tony
May I add my 2p-worth in praise of the guys who are doing up the
carriage interiors?
Recently outshopped vehicles have been very good indeed and the
standard of finish seems to get better and better.
Keith Brown
Keith
is Medstead & Four Marks stationmaster
... tw
From: Keith Brown
Sent: 01 July 2007 21:10
Subject: Medstead & Four Marks: Sunday 1st July - Morris Day
Medstead & Four Marks on a damp Sunday 1st July, with
Southampton Corporation AEC Regent 5 on service.
Later (and slightly less damp) the Wickham Morris performed on the
platform.
The first dance is called "Duck
and Dive",
apparently.
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From: Colin Ember
Sent: 01 July 2007 20:08
Subject: Steam on
a Dull Wet Day
Hi Tony
Wonder whether this will be ok for the web, taken on War On The Line Weekend,
camera in one hand brollie in the other.
All the best
Colin
From: Horace Ward
Sent: 30 June 2007 19:35
Subject: Terminus and Mid Hants
Dear Tony
With the 40th
Anniversary of the End of Steam on the Southern
coming up next weekend (July 7-8th) what more proof of the existence of
steam passing over the Mid Hants metals from Waterloo Station than
this still from the 1961 documentary: "TERMINUS".
It was director
JOHN SCHLESINGER's debut as a film maker. The short (33mins) film went
on to win many awards for the day in the life of Waterloo
Station.
During
the film the manually-operated mainline destination board clearly
shows: ROPLEY, MEDSTEAD, ALRESFORD and ITCHEN ABBAS on the way to
Winchester as stopping points.
Dr.Beeching's cuts were still another 12 years away.
"Terminus" is evidence of a bygone age of steam seen at the famous
station over 45 years ago.
My best wishes
Horace
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From:
Martin Taylor
Sent: 01 July 2007 17:31
In relation to the letter by Horace about the short film Terminus, you
can actually watch
this free online
Hope this is of
interest to some
Keep up the great work Tony with the website
Regards
Martin
Thank you Martin. Much appreciated
... tw
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From: Dave Warwick
Sent: 29 June 2007 07:02
Subject: From Thursday
Tony
Here are two shots taken Thursday of #73096
and the Mechanical Thing!
Where's the THUMPER? !! However, it photographs
well.
Given up on Bittern; I'll get it sometime this year
:-P
David
More
than a fair share
of misfortune with the Thumper: first the replacement wheelset we
bought did not fit; now the original wheels have new tyres
which
are too wide and these are currently being machined.
Whilst the A4 is in the wheeldrop shed it has no fire.
A warming fire is lit on the day
before
steam is raised because boilers suffer thermal stress if heated or
cooled too rapidly. Raising steam does not necessarily mean it will run
... tw
From: Paul Harrington
Sent: 26 June 2007 21:54
Hi Tony
Just a word of encouragement to say thanks and keep going with the loco
shed info as I visit the site every day and even small titbits of info
give the feeling of being in touch with what is going on.
Every day off
I have I visit the MPD to see always something going on. Sometimes
mundane, sometimes odd, sometimes something unique, but always
something interesting. But for more days off.....
Anyway, please
don't feel that info you have may be too trivial. It all makes good
reading and good publicity.
Thanks Tony
Regards
Harry
From: Matthew Myatt
Sent: 17 June 2007 00:54
Hi Tony
Is
the A4 still with you guys, if so what days is it available for
viewing?
I have twin 8 year old autistic boys who are just mad about
A4's but have never seen a real one.
Would love to bring them up as
this would be something they would never forget.
Best Wishes
Matthew S Myatt (MRPS) (MBFP)
17th
June 2007
Hi Matt
If you or Nick are at Ropley on Saturday, could you look out for these
people please?
Autistics are fascinated by systems such as railways or architecture,
but often can't relate to other people at all. Explain stuff to them
carefully; they are usually pretty intelligent so it will be
understood, but you'd never know it from their reactions. People who
don't understand autism tend to dismiss them as a dead loss, which is a
pity ... tw
Sent:
26 June 2007
14:38
Dear Tony
Can I just
extend to you and
your team at MHR a massive thank you for all the help given to me and
the boys on Saturday. We were given unrestricted access to the A4 that
was in the wheeldrop shed, and the guy who showed us around was so good
with the boys, I only wish I could remember his name, a true credit to
you all.
I am writing
copy for publication and have attached a picture from the day,
saving the A4 shots for the papers.
Best Wishes
Matthew S
Myatt (MRPS) (MBFP)
From: Matthew Myatt
Sent: 13 July 2007
03:40
Please find attached Newspaper
Report about Eastleigh Artists
Matthew
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From: B Collins
Sent: 25 June 2007 12:40
Subject: Thank you
I want to send a big thank you to all those who put in the hard work
organising, running and participating in War
on the Line
this weekend. We had a lovely time despite the
weather. It
was a shame but understandable that some displays were reduced/stopped
by the wet. I was particularly looking forward to the Home
Front
displays at Medstead and Four Marks, didn't see any sign of them and
was told that they had been abandoned completely due to the
rain.
All credit then to those who hung on in there under trying conditions,
it was much appreciated!
Regards
Bridget
From: David Charlesworth
Sent: 22 June 2007 23:05
To: Tony Wood
Subject: Hurricane; Father's Day
Tony
If you see something like
this tomorrow (Saturday, 23rd
June) it's one of ours!
Also two pictures from Father's Day last Sunday (17th June): a busy scene
at Medstead and Four Marks with a down Southampton via Alton train
passing the diverted up Bournemouth Belle - well almost- and classic
headgear seen at Alton
Regards
David Charlesworth
From: Dave
Clarke
Sent: 21 June 2007 21:18
Subject: Repton
Hi Tony
I think the Maunsell Society may take issue with your claim that Repton
was fastest Schools class loco. Their
website includes a
section which reads:
"Stowe" performed with distinction
on the Waterloo -
Weymouth expresses. It holds the highest speed authenticated for the
class - 95 mph - which was
attained near Wool under the hand of Driver Guy on a four-coach train
from Dorchester to Wareham, the 15 miles taking no more than
13¼
minutes.
Best regards
Dave Clarke
The
two rival claims are not actually contradictory ...
tw
To:
The Managing Director
The Watercress Line
19th June 2007
Dear Sir,
My wife and family visited the line for the first time on Sunday and we
just wanted to write and say thank you for such a brilliant day!
We are members of the Bluebell Railway and it was nice to visit another
line and compare differences.
From the first point of contact your staff and volunteers were most
helpful, polite and informative - something which they can be proud of
- it really makes a difference to the day. In particular the guard who
played my son some cracking English folk tunes on his accordion was
very impressive! We noticed the same courtesy throughout the day
towards others and would be grateful if you can pass on our thanks to
those involved.
And as for the trains! What a treat to see the Bulleids running and the
wonderful restoration of 60019 Bittern: even my
long-suffering wife was impressed. My boy nearly jumped out of his skin
to see 'James' in the yard too!
Something else which struck me was the way the line has 'just enough'
stock and does not seem to be crammed full of rotting and
unlikely-to-be-restored hulks as some lines are. It seems from first
impressions that the line carries enough to run trains and have some to
be getting on with without overcrowding. Similarly the line itself
seems very contained, tidy and contented with what it's got. Is this a
deliberate policy or did I miss large sidings somewhere??!
Altogether a great father's day treat and we will certainly visit again
in the future. Well done to all and thank you again.
Regards
Dave Humphries
From:
Colin Charman
Sent: 24 June 2007 21:43
As one of the volunteers on duty on the days of Dave Humphries' and
Louisa Richards' visits, I'd just like to say how much I appreciate the
recognition for ALL of the volunteers that helped make their visits so
enjoyable. It's the way that everyone pulls together that makes it so
rewarding to be a volunteer on our railway.
I should add that the accordion-playing guard was actually a Ticket
Inspector - the Guards take their responsibility for safety very
seriously and stay focussed on their job; the Ticket Inspectors are
privileged to be able to spend time with our visitors.
We do have an accordion-playing guard and a concertina-playing
signalman too (but not whilst on duty!)
To answer Dave's question: We do have quite extensive carriage sidings,
but as its War-on-the-Line today I'm afraid I couldn't possibly reveal
their location due to the threat of "adverse enemy action".
Regards,
Colin Charman
Ticket Inspector and occasional Melodion player
From: Keith Homewood
Sent: 18 June 2007 21:41
We
had a super day on Saturday with a great bunch (9) Rangers at Ropley.
Work included cleaning out the 'tunnel' of Bittern's
tender, disposing
of No1 (Thomas) and weeding along the track in the
sidings and removing
rubbish, oiling up axle boxes, lubricators and my right leg(!!!) ready
for moving locos and rolling stock down at the boiler shed end. And
there was the time it started to rain. Whilst I sat under the running
boards the Rangers went on a whistle-stop tour from Waterloo to Alton
on the footplate of 'James'. Not a bad run - nice and smooth - with all
the sound effects too!!!
At lunchtime they brought life into the
Manor again with all their chat and goings-on and of course the
obligatory dirty fingers and noses. In some cases just two
beady eyes
sparkling out from very dirty faces. At least they all looked clean at
the end of the day when they descended on Wadebridge
for the last
train to Alton.
Thought you might like these two photos of some of them with Bittern.
Our next work party is on Saturday 30th June.
Keith, Ranger Manager
From: Ken Alexander
Sent: 19 June 2007 19:46
Hi Tony
Came down on Sunday to see Bittern. She looks
magnificent and everybody concerned must feel realy proud.
Also had my first run behind Wadebridge and she
sounded great climbing up from Alton.
Here are a few of the shots I took.
Cheers
Ken
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From: Richard Hay
Sent: 17 June 2007 13:17
Subject: Lineside Photography
Dear Mr Wood
A short note to request clarification of the requirements for lineside
photography INSIDE the railway fence.
My understanding was that the MHR had banned lineside passes due to the
perceived risk of photographers being injured whilst inside the railway
boundary and the railway being accountable.
Is this still the case or are passes now available again? I
ask
as I have been very frustrated with frequent photographs both on this
website, the MHR News and within the preservation press that are
obviously taken from inside the fence. Do the people who take
these photos hold passes, are they members of track gangs who are there
by default or tresspassers? Whilst the track gangs have done
tremendous amount of work clearing long stretches of the lineside of
vegetation some shots (such as the famous shot to the east of Alresford
cutting) are only obtainable by getting inside the fence.
I look forward to hearing from you
Best regards
Richard Hay
The
ban continues on photography within the railway’s boundaries
as set out on
our website. NO PASSES ARE ISSUED.
MHR
has approved a very few officially appointed photographers with current
MHR Personal Track Safety Certificates. Some members of staff (with PTS
Certs) take photos whilst on duty lineside. Some of the best
photographs taken ‘East of Alresford’ have been
taken from
outside MHR property. Your webmaster is careful to exclude
from
the website any photographs taken in breach of the rules.
Thank
you for giving the opportunity to once again clarify this matter
... tw, 17 June 2007 17:14
From: Henry O'Dwyer
Sent: 15 June 2007 14:01
Subject: Another slide show
Hi Tony
Yet another slide
show - pleased with this one
Rgds
H.
Roll on War on the Line
From: Louisa Richards
Sent: 15 June 2007 13:04
Subject: Thank you!
Dear All
We had such a lovely day out on The Watercress Line yesterday and I
wanted to write and say thank you very much and to send you a couple of
our photos!
The lovely ticket inspector was especially helpful and friendly - thank
you! (And Matthew was really pleased to see Thomas!)
We'll be back again soon.
With kind regards
Louisa Richards
(and also Matthew (4) and Isabella (18m), and their Great Grandmother!)
From: Cathryn Bennett
Sent: 11 June 2007 16:41
Subject: Video !!
Hi Tony
Have just seen the better quality
video on
the website, great stuff indeed!! Really moving to see this
loco
"alive" once more after her very long lay off and lengthy restoration.
Congratulations to all who have worked on her - you have every reason
to
be VERY proud of this "new" A4 !!
Looking forward to seeing you all again very soon
Best Wishes
Cathryn Bennett
From: Matt Allen
Sent: 11 June 2007 12:37
Hi Tony
Interesting to see DW's comments
about flying birds
on the website. What he doesn't know is I came over after
work on
Thurs/Fri on the "off-chance", I then spent from 11am 'til 8pm sat at
Ropley on Saturday (inc a massive thunder storm) waiting for something
to happen!
Taking the photos is the easy part, you need to put in plenty of hard
work to be in the right place at the right time!
Regards
Matt
From: Horace Ward
Sent: 11 June 2007 11:43
Subject: Feltham Yard
Hello Tony
Just received your excellent fully packed MID-HANTS NEWS (MHR
Preservation Society members' magazine)
Referring to the picture on Page 22, I can assure John that the picture
of Robert Urie's S15 is certainly standing in Feltham Marshalling Yard.
It had these very distinctive lampholder poles with the ladders running
up the side and you can see the incline in the distance where shunting
took place. Im sure it had more than one 'hump', the place was vast and
there was constant clank from the wagons. One part is now an
industrial estate,the other a bird sanctuary.
Lived all my life at Feltham and did we curse on the way to school in
the latter 1940s if the level crossing gates were closed. That was the
trouble living on the 'Southern' being so near the yard, goods trains
galore besides normal traffic and the troop movements down to the West
Country.
"Not another Channel Packet" my school chums would say, waiting with
our cycles, as the next Merchant Navy rumbled over the crossing,
shaking our fists because we would be late for class. Happy
days.
Regards
Horace
From: Henry O'Dwyer
Sent: 11 June 2007 09:35
Subject: 10-06-07
Hi Tony
Lovely stuff from DW again:
I do like the Standard shot.
PTS recently refreshed to 2009.
Another little slide show at the usual
place: observations around Ropley
and Alresford
Helped clean the pit out
yesterday, now there's a first!
Rgds
H
From: Matt Allen
Sent: 10 June 2007 11:13
Subject: Bittern by twilight
Hi Tony
Got some more pictures of Bittern yesterday, she went for a quick run
up and down but not until it was nearly dark. So this is what a Bittern
looks like at Twilight!
Regards
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From: Peter Burkle
Sent: 09 June 2007 19:47
Subject: Changes to Website
Dear Tony
I think it is a great step forward to be able to book tickets on-line,
and well done on that score.
However,
I wonder if I am alone in missing the beautiful clarity and simplicity
of the old layout, especially with regard to the RAT timetable and the
Dining trains. I can appreciate that pre-booking is an essential, even
to the RATs, but we were given much more information before,
and it is
good to know when trains are running, even if they are fully
booked!
Thank you
Peter Burkle
Thank
you for your comments, Peter.
Our booking website is separate from the original site, is commercially
run for MHR and is updated in its details directly by MHR Marketing and
Reservations Depts. On-line booking works to different objectives and
is intended to allow (e.g.) busy mums to complete transactions with the
minimum number of ‘clicks’. They don’t
have the
luxury of being able to include anything relevant, nor the development
period of our Topsy (“I just growed”) of a site.
I've
forwarded your comments to them.
Maintaining the ‘old’ pages is not an option
because they could never be synchronised satisfactorily.
The good news is that the new system hit the ground running and is
proving even more popular than we’d dared hope. Win some,
lose
some, I suppose.
...
tw, 10 June 2007 07:42
Dear Tony
Many thanks for your prompt reply and I do now see a bit more
clearly than I did last night! By pressing the
'Book Now' I
have all the information I need, so my apologies .... Peter,
10/06/2007 12:32
From: Phill Brentor
Sent: 08 June 2007 00:36
Subject: Bittern
Congrats to all....great to see her MOVE!!
Phill
From: Dave Suart
Sent: 08 June 2007 00:08
Subject: Bittern
Hi Tony
You probably have a stack of these but here goes anyways.
Talk about Emotive power!
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From: Matt Allen
Sent: 07 June 2007 19:20
Subject: First flight....
Hi Tony
I
received a tip-off at work today so had to hastily make it to Ropley.
Just caught 60019 returning from M4M after its long awaited first run.
Some people must be very proud of the work they've put in
Regards
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From: Andrew Moody
Sent: 07 June 2007 20:01
Subject: #60019 To Medstead
From Signalman Andy Moody.
Hi Tony
Glad you were able to film #60019 moving from the wheel drop
road
up the yard at 1428 the second trip was at 1538.
Now, the big question is, Does anyone have footage or still photos of
the light engine test run to Medstead and back this afternoon?
I offered #60019 to Mike Ball at Medstead at 1623, Loco entered Ropley
Medstead section at 1626 arriving Medstead at 1649, the crew stopping a
couple of times to check for hot bearings, etc.
Mike Ball offered #60019 back to me at 1704, #60019 departed Medstead
at 1714 and arrived Ropley at 1726 without problem.
That just about sums up what a marvellous job the lads at Ropley have
done.
Best wishes.
Andy Moody
P.S. On the way home I passed 34007 in Alresford High
Street.
From: Craig Nobbs
Date: 29/05/2007 09:28:20
Subject: Ropley gates
Dear Sir
I
visited the MHR yesterday (probably the foulest weather experienced at
Ropley!), and the only decent photograph taken was the attached one of
the LSWR/SR furnishings on
the Ropley foot-crossing; feel free to use
it on your web site. Details such as this often get overlooked, and
probably attract little credit, but what a marvellous scene for the
railway modeller; there isn't any 21st century clutter visible
either!
Full
marks to the staff in the West Country Buffet at Alresford as well, who
kept us warm with tea, coffee, cakes, and Itchen Valley ale! Will visit
again soon.
Best regards
Craig Nobbs
Sent: 04 June 2007 11:22
Hi Tony
I take it that the letter/photo was not up to scratch.
For future reference, what are your criteria for submissions?
Many thanks
Craig Nobbs
Sent:
04 June 2007 12:11
Hello Craig
Please
don’t be disappointed if your photo(s) are not published
on our website. I do like the gates photo you sent, but
haven’t
yet found a place for it.
‘Criteria’
sounds a bit formal to me; I’m not exactly
sure what my criteria are, to tell the truth! Friends locally or in
other countries like to follow MHR’s progress, and I
deliberately
include some ‘this England’ pictures for all the
ex-pats
who regularly browse our website.
I do mentally sort
photos into two categories: news and art. The
standard for ‘news’ photos is simply something
newsworthy
(submitted very soon after it was taken) and of interest. Later
submissions need a far higher standard to rate inclusion.
Of course I get a
lot of photos sent in which are technically poor
(shaken, badly-composed, degraded by editing) but can correct many
faults here if the photo is worth it (getting uprights upright,
cropping – that sort of thing).
Have a look at the
photos we have on the website already and
you’ll be able to pick out the better
photographers’ work
by their WOW factor. Recent pictures by Henry O’Dwyer, John H
Bird, Horace Ward, Matt Allen, Cliff Thomas and Dave Warwick spring to
mind ... tw
From:
Ian Coward
Sent: 11 June 2007 10:24
Subject: Ropley Crossing
Dear Tony
Just a word of thanks on behalf of the Wednesday
Gang
to Craig Nobbs for his appreciation of our work at
Ropley (29/05)
and his excellent photo. You see work does get done between the tea
breaks!
Regards
Ian Coward
From: David Charlesworth
Sent: 04 June 2007 21:51
Subject: Vintage Bus
Tony
Ex Southampton AEC Regent 5
No.361 was running again this Sunday. Medstead resident ex
Aldershot & District AEC
Reliance No.370 operated the other service. It is seen at
Jane Austen's house in Chawton and at Alton
station with the SW Trains rail replacement bus in the background.
While the main line through Basingstoke was closed, a replacement
service ran to Alton with bus onward to Winchester.
Regards
David Charlesworth
From: Clive Holliday
Sent: 03 June 2007 10:23
Subject: Last night's RAT
Tony
Don't know if you want to use these pics ?
The
Ivatt taken through the cab of the Class 5 with other locos in the
background
Pete and I waiting for
the road to leave Ropley with the RAT
Clive
From:
Phil Harding
Sent: 04 June 2007 17:14
Tony
I have to say that the pink bib and brace as modelled by Pete works
really well with the knotted hanky. Sort of that 1950's housewife
look....
Phil
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From: Matt Bentley
Sent: 30 May 2007 23:01
I took my kids on the Mid Hants on Tuesday 29th May 2007 and as always
they loved it.
The added bonus was their uncle was driving #73096.
All the Best
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From: Keith Homewood
Sent: 29 May 2007 10:45
Subject: Photos
Hi Tony
On
Saturday we had a super day with our usual bunch of Rangers: Tom*,
Ollie, Mat, Nick and Mark - where do they find the time and
energy?
The
Rangers spent their time cleaning, polishing, mucking out the ash pit
and 'discussing' (or was it arguing) which was the best railway
company.
Was it Midland, GWR, LMS, Southern, L&SW etc? They know what I
think !!!!!
If
any of our visitors aged 12 to
16+ want to become Rangers
they can contact me via our Alresford HQ.
Best wishes
Keith
From: Matt Allen
Sent: 27 May 2007 17:23
Subject: MHR freight
Hi Tony
A very wet day with the freight today, but I don't give up easily!
Regards
Matt
From: Matt Allen
Sent: 26 May 2007 17:43
Subject: Another day at the MHR!
Hi Tony
A few pics from today, 41312 had to deputise for 34007 this afternoon,
so I got a rare shot of 41312 on a full length passenger train.
Regards
Matt
From: Peter Searle
Sent: 25 May 2007 21:26
Subject: Bittern Pressure Test
Hello Tony
I have attached two pictures taken this afternoon of Bittern
undergoing its pressure test at Ropley.You may like to use them on your
web site.
Thank you
Peter Searle
From: Horace Ward
Sent: 25 May 2007 20:35
Subject: Ready for flight!
Ah, just spotted pictures of BITTERN,
nice photographs,Tony....and of course, congratulations to Andy
&
Keith and all the others who have dedicated themselves to this old
timer from day one.
I'm sure already a fan base is forming for this famous 'bird' flying
out of Ropley. Springwatch on the BBC should feature its early arrival
in Hampshire...and in full plumage.
Regards
Horace
From: Tom Homewood
Sent: 23 May 2007 09:22
Subject: 35005 as 35008
Hi Tony
I have attached a picture of 'CP'
as 35008 weathered up.
It also has the rangers
who helped make her look like that, including me.
Thanks
Tom
From:
Philip Harding
Sent: 23 May 2007 19:41
Lovely photo of CP + the Hobbits. Well done Tom. I think that the
Rangers we've had for the last year or longer have been some of the
most committed, funny and willing people we've had on the railway. They
take everything us grumpy old chuck at them and still manage to have
fun. Well done lads!
Phil
From:Ian Moules
Sent: 22 May 2007 12:26
Subject: Consett Iron Company
My Grandfather was an engine driver for Consett Iron Company between
1940 and 1970, approximately. When I was I child he always drew
pictures of 'his' engine and called it 'A1'. I was excited to find the
description below from a website on CIC which talks about three classes
of engine A, B, and C. So it seems possible that there truly was an A1
engine.
Can anyone within your organisation or any of your readers help me to
track down more information on these engines and whether any still
exist?
For further background, my Grandfather lost a leg in an accident at the
works when he fell under a train. It was before my time, as I only
remember him with an artificial leg.
Many thanks in advance. We (myself and my 10-year old son) are regular
visitors to the Line and would like to thank you for the pleasure your
organisation brings.
Ian Moules
Southampton
EXTRACT
from http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DUR/Consett/Works5.html#a12
The locomotives and locomotive
cranes are for
convenience divided into classes, the locomotives into A B C, and the
locomotive cranes into D and E, the entire number in use being
forty-three. Of the locomotives, the A class, six in number, are the
most powerful, having all six coupled wheels. Four of them have
cylinders 16-in. diameter by 24-in. stroke, with wheels 3-ft. 11-in.
diameter. The other two have cylinders 171/2-in. diameter by 25-in.
stroke, with wheels 4-ft. 2-in. diameter. They are all inside cylinder
tank engines, and were built by Kitson & Company, of Leeds.
Each
weighs about 36 tons, and they are chiefly used in working the traffic.
between the collieries and the works, and hauling the ore to the
blastfurnaces.
The B class are outside cylinder
tank engines,
weighing about 25 tons, with four coupled wheels 3-ft. 4-in. diameter,
the cylinders being 12-in. diameter by 19-in. stroke. They are used
principally about the mills for shunting purposes and delivering the
steel and iron, &c., on to the North-Eastern Railway.
They have been built by various
makers, namely,
Black, Hawthorn, & Co., Gateshead; Robert Stephenson &
Co., and
Hawthorn, Leslie, & Co., Newcastle-on-Tyne; and John Harris,
Darlington.
The C class, four in number, are
tank engines
of a similar design to the B class, having outside cylinders 9-in.
diameter by 16-in. stroke, and four coupled wheels 2-ft. 10-in.
diameter. They are used exclusively about the blast-furnaces, and were
built by Black, Hawthorn, & Co. The D locomotive cranes include
three types built respectively by Dubs & Company, Glasgow
(four) ;
Black, Hawthorn, & Co. (one); and T. Smith, of Rodley (three).
From: Stephen
Hoadley
Sent: 22 May 2007 19:38
Mr Moules may like to have a look at www.ntsra.org.uk/stock.html,
where he will find details of the CISC A Class locomotive No. 5
preserved by the North Tyneside Steam Railway Association. A fine old
engine indeed.
Regards
Stephen Hoadley
From: Robin Silman
Sent: 20 May 2007 19:10
Subject: Emailing pic
Good Evening Tony
Have attached a pic of the yard
this morning (Sun 20th) with Wadebridge
and Std 5 being prepped and Bittern gently warming
up
Regards
Robin Silman
From: Jenny H
Sent: 19 May 2007 17:46
Subject: photograph
Hi
I am a member of the Winchester Photographic Society. Last year I
visited Ropley station and took a
picture of one of your volunteers in action.
It has done well in our monthly competions at the club and received 14
out of 15 in inter-club competitions.
Be nice if you can use it but I would like to know who the chap is if
anyone can place him, just to say thanks and offer a copy print.
Look forward to hearing from you
Regards
Jenny H
From: Andy Crespin
Sent: 20 May 2007 00:14
Subject: Bittern
Loco looks superb. Well done to all involved.
Umm, don't bitterns eat fish ?
Andy
From:
Phill Brentor
Sent: 20 May 2007 01:08
Subject: Bittern
Hi Tony
Great to see a fire
in it's belly!!!
Congrats to all who made it happen....I look forward to seeing it
passing through Peterborough
Regards
Phill
From: R G Wedd
Sent: 13 May 2007 09:27
Subject: Thank you to all at Mid Hants
Hi Tony
Can you please pass on a very big thank you to the crew on Canadian Pacific
which hauled the 15.00 service on Saturday May 12th. I organised a footplate ride
for my mother's birthday and after being welcomed by the friendly
station staff and crew, she really loved her time riding on the engine
and watching what goes on!!
We've just been talking about it again this morning and she's still
smiling a day later which is great!!
Thanks once again for your fantastic website. Bittern's
coming along nicely and the engineering team must be very
proud.
I look forward to the next time I visit the railway
Cheers
Rob Wedd
From: Matt
Allen
Date: 2007/05/11 Fri PM 05:08:46 GMT
Subject: Bulleids
Hi Tony
I've put together a webpage
with a collection of my best Bulleid pics - thought I'd start
getting into the spirit for the End of Southern Steam
event in July.
Not all the pics are from the MHR, but a lot of them are and a lot of
the locos have visited from time to time (or are
resident of
course!)
Regards
Matt
From: Matthew
Hurst
Sent: 08 May 2007 06:42
Subject: Website
I
was browsing through your website again (as I tend to do daily) and
noted that there is no Gallery page. This surprised me
somewhat as
there have been many excellent photos taken, submitted and published on
the events news page but seemingly forgotten about. It would
appear
that the majority of other heritage line sites have this and was
wondering if there was a reason why the MHR (and by far the best) site
does not?
I also noted that on the Film & TV section of the site
there is a link to the Locomotive Status Report. Could this
be updated
as it appears not to have been since 15th/16th May 2004 and a lot has
happened since then?
Regards
Matthew Hurst
Our website currently
contains over 7500 photos and web-movies. They are available on the
archived pages indexed at Loco
Shed Archives and Latest
News Archives.
IMHO photos and web-movies are best viewed in their proper context and
a 'gallery' would not be worth the candle.
The
Loco Status Report link on the Filming page was vestigial (our previous
Loco Engineering Manager had produced interesting daily updates) and I
have now removed it. Thank you. ... tw
From: David Charlesworth
Sent: 06 May 2007 22:13
Subject: Sunday 6th May
Tony
You wait forty years or more for a bus and two turn up at once! This
year the Vintage Bus Service is based on Alton station and here the two
buses are together.
Earlier, ex Southampton City Transport No.361
AEC Regent V
of
1963 had arrived from Petersfield and Aldershot and
District No.145,
a Dennis Lance K3
of 1950, started from
Medstead & Four Marks on its debut with this
service.
Regards
David Charlesworth
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From: Earlene Kelly
Sent: 06 May 2007 11:22
Subject: Days out with Thomas
Hi there
We are trying to piece together a family holiday this August, and since
our little boy loves Thomas we have decided to visit your train station.
One of the problems we are experiencing is finding a place to stay...
If you could forward on a list of places to stay in the town I would be
very grateful.
There's four of us, two adults and two children, 4, and 3 years of age.
Thanks again,
We love visiting the website and seeing all the short movies.
Earlene Kelly
Co. Donegal
ROI
Hello
Earlene
We have a webpage full of local
accommodation and because your Thomas
event tickets will
allow you the freedom of our line’s frequent train services
for
the day, you could stay near any of our four stations and arrive in
style by steam train at Ropley, where most of the action takes
place.
The kids especially will love every minute of it; main problem for
parents is persuading them it’s time to go home!
None of
the places on our Accommodation List has been the subject of complaint.
... tw
From: Cleo
Sent: 04 May 2007 08:42
Subject: Thomas Day Out
Just wanted to say I think the Watercressline website is impressive -
you have done a great job with it. I believe I spoke to you
on
the 9th April about the site and the Thomas Day Out,
and all the work that goes on 'behind the scenes' and throughout the
year. Everyone involved really does deserve recognition for
such
hard work in maintaining a great piece of working English
history. At the time myself and my husband (and 2 year old
son)
were talking to you, the Director
made an appearance and chatted; he was so down to earth and it is a
great reflection on the service provided.
Again many thanks for a fantastic
day out (for all ages!)
Cleo
From: Martin B
Sent: 03 May 2007 17:44
Subject: A Wadebridge
question
Hi Tony
Maybe someone who knows can answer this one.
I've just been looking at Dave Warwick's picture of 34007's nameplate
and badge and something seemed familiar about it.
You see, that badge is actually the central part of the coat of arms of
the County of Cornwall: http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=13148
Yes I know Wadebridge is in Cornwall but does that badge really come
from Wadebridge the town, or has someone been pulling a fast one
here? Just curious.
Martin
From: Stephen Hoadley
Sent: 03 May 2007 19:24
Dear Tony
Martin B is quite correct that Wadebridge’s nameplate is
derived
from the Cornish heraldic device, but the same was true of most if not
all of the ‘Cornish’ West Countries.
See http://www.semg.org.uk/steam/blp91.html
which I hope is more accurate than said organisation’s work
on headcodes…
Anyhow, for a bit of fun have a look at http://www.wadebridge-tc.gov.uk
for a taste of how the badge might have looked if the loco had been
named today. This is probably not the correct badge for the loco as
built, since the town badge is likely to have changed at local
government reorganisation in 1974. All sorts of odd things happened
with West Country nameplates and badges. Some had them, some
didn’t. #34105 Swanage never ran with badges, but at least
one
was made at some time and used to be on display in the crypt of the
parish church when there was a model railway down there.
Regards
Stephen Hoadley
From: Peter Cutler
Sent: 01 May 2007 17:59
Subject: The Royal Wessex
Hi Tony
Interesting how some trains carried the definitive article in their
name and some, like (the) Atlantic Coast Express, didn't.
Excellent shot by Matt Allen taken on the 29th - would make a good
setting for a Pines Express.
In Henry's picture - same day - which way did the signalman at Worting
route the train? ;-)
Pete Cutler
From: Richard Hawkins
Sent: 02 May 2007 11:46
Subject: Southern Headcodes
Tony
In response to Peter Cutler’s e-mail dated 1st May, the
setting
of the headcode discs on CanPac in Matt Allen’s splendid
image
dated 29th April appears appropriate for The Royal Wessex.
Whereas, the headcode display on the same locomotive bearing The Royal
Wessex headboard in Henry O’Dwyer’s equally
splendid image
taken at Alresford on the same
day is inappropriate
(Waterloo to Salisbury & Exeter.)
The Southern Railway and BR(S) had a unique system of headcode discs
yet often on the MHR a white disc is displayed over each buffer
(London to Dover; Portsmouth to Salisbury; or, more than likely, the
standard BR express code displayed on other regions), or a single disc
in the centre of either the buffer beam or the smoke box.
The Southern E-Group has a web page devoted to steam locomotive
headcodes at
http://www.semg.org.uk/headcodes/sheadcodes/sheadcodes04.html.
The MHR is committed to recreating the scene of BR(S) in the
‘50s and ‘60s and it would be good to see more
appropriate
displays of headcodes (including duty numbers), especially when a
headboard is employed.
Regards
Richard Hawkins
From: Mark Fry
Sent: 03 May 2007
14:46
Subject: Southern
Headcodes and SEMG page
Hi Tony
I think that the SEMG
page that
Richard Hawkins mentions needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. The
information there is not necessarily correct - or at least, codes in
use on different sections of the SR, or maybe at different times, have
become muddled. I believe this was discussed at some length within the
group a couple of years ago, but the page has not been updated. I
suspect that a monograph needs to be written on the subject!
I can only remember
two codes,
which were in use on the Western Section in the 1950s and 1960s. They
just happen to be the two mentioned in Peter and Richard's letters.
Neither of them are on the SEMG page:
No
9
(centre top and centre buffer-beam) Waterloo - Salisbury - Exeter as
carried by the Atlantic Coast Express (and Henry's
picture of 35005);
No 14 (right smoke-box and left buffer-beam) Waterloo - Sway -
Bournemouth (and Weymouth?) as carried by the Bournemouth Belle (and
Matt's picture);
SEMG gives No 20 for Waterloo - Sway - Bournemouth, and I can't find
Waterloo - Exeter listed.
BTW, the
Bournemouth Belle
was another named train without "The" on the headboard. "The Great
Marquess" is very unusual in having "The" in her name. Off-hand, I
cannot think of another steam locomotive. Maybe some of the LMS
Patriots and Jubilees named after regiments used the definite article?
Cheers
Mark
From: Richard Hawkins
Sent: 04 May 2007 14:41
Tony
I think your two correspondents might have overlooked the point I was
attempting to make. The Mid Hants had its own discrete
headcode
display which, for the uninitiated, may be confirmed by reference to a
photograph on Alton platform 3, adjacent to the staircase.The use of
such a headcode these days is very rare, in my experience. The use of
any headcode other than the standard BR express code, or a single disc,
is also rare these days. An inappropriate headcode in conjunction with
a head-board is sacrilege of course.
MHR takes great and justifiable pride in its attempts to re-create the
BR(S) scene in the 1950s/60s: the Traffic Dept staff pay out
for
authentic uniforms; the Building Group agonises over correct and
authentic signage; electric tail-lamps are banned, etc, etc; yet the
whole scene can be let down by something as innocuous as the incorrect
display of two white metal discs on locomotives. Whilst this
might
not be of major concern to the average family who attend the Railway
just for the experience, the fact that serious photographers like Matt
Allen and Henry O’Dwyer have images posted on the web-site
demands a greater attention to detail than generally appears to be the
case, I believe.
Kind regards
Richard
From: Andy Crespin
Sent: 04 May 2007 23:04
Joining in the headcode debate, I must admit I looked at the photo of
35005 and wondered why the Royal Wessex was running through Salisbury !!
When I was driving, I always put a correct headcode for the line,
usually the Waterloo-Bournemouth route, or the local headcode for the
Alton - Soton Terminus run.
Cheers
Andy
From:
Amy Woodhead
Sent: 29 April 2007 20:12
Dear Watercress Line
I am Amy Woodhead, and I am 12 years old from Chandlers Ford.
On Sunday I travelled on your trains, and took a series of photos from
your trains.
I will send you my favourite, which I took early in the
morning.
From Amy Louise Woodhead
Thank you Amy. I
like looking through the keyhole in the last coach, too!
d:-) ... tw
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From: Henry O'Dwyer
Sent: 30 April 2007 12:45
Subject: 30th Anniversary weekend: Sunday 29th April
Thought I'd send a second frame of the Alresford shot.
Rgds
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From: Andy Crespin
Sent: 30 April 2007 10:20
Subject: Re 75079
Hi Tony
I have just read about your surprise new loco purchase, both from Keith
Adams' mail to me, and now on the website. It is nice to see an ex
Eastleigh loco, preserved where it should be. Good on you. It's an old
favourite from when Keith and I were 'train spotting' at Southampton
Central many years ago now. It was only 10 years old when
withdrawn ! Shame it was built at Swindon, but hey, I guess
you
can't have everything ...
If it will be any help, I would like to donate my Class 4 whistle and
valve to the loco. I have had it for well over 35 years, and it would
be nice to see it back on a working loco. I know this is a long way
off, but it will be one less thing to worry about. I will bring it with
me when I visit UK next year...How's that ?
Cheers
Andy
Thanks Andy. I've written to
you ... tw
From: Colin Chambers (MHR Chairman/MD)
Sent: 30 April 2007 14:05
My records tell me it was an Exmouth then Basingstoke loco, it may have
nominally been transferred to Eastleigh when Basingstoke became a
signing-on point, but it seems to have remained there.
Thanks for the offer of the whistle
From: John H Bird
Sent: 29 April 2007 22:21
Hi Tony
Just back from a nostalgic visit to Alresford and a chance to look at
the exhibition for the 30th anniversary. As I stood on the footbridge
watching CanPac awaiting departure with a long line of SR green
carriages, I thought what an evocative and perfect Southern scene! How
things have changed since 1976/77.
For comparison I attach a
shot from today, plus Alresford
1976 with carriage restoration in full swing, and a late
BR/early preservation scene of a deserted
Alresford forecourt.
Best wishes and thanks to everyone who has made the last 30 years
happen!
John H. Bird
From: John Willerton
Sent: 29 April 2007 20:40
Subject: 35005 Photograph
Hi Tony
Having recently sorted my own railway photographs, I came across this
photo of #35005 Canadian
Pacific which I took on
21st July 1965 while on holiday in Bournemouth
and I thought you might be interested.
With best regards
John Willerton
Thank you, John. Excellent
... tw
From: Keith Adams
Sent: 28 April 2007 22:23
Subject: Good Luck Mk 2 and Thanks
Dear Tony
I was pleased to see the recent email from my friend Andy Crespin. Andy
and I could often be found observing on Southampton Central station in
the mid 1960's so we go back a few years.
Like Andy I am unable to be at the Mid Hants on the 30th
April, the actual anniversary, but unlike him I have been
there
today. I reflected on a few differences from 30 years ago when I
watched 31874 set off on that historic journey . This morning I joined
the first train from Alresford - five Mark 1 coaches and a Bulleid
brake, all in the proper shade of BR SR green, hauled by 35005, now
happily owned by the Society.
Andy commented that none of the original footplate crew would be
present. There were three on the Merchant's footplate - a young lady in
charge of the shovel and her two colleagues, all of whom looked far far
too young to have known steam on the mainline pre 1967. I well recall
Andy telling me how a steam engine should be driven, no excessive
noise, no excess blowing of safety valves, good progress in a economic
driving style. He would have been well impressed today. There was not a
trace of a slip and no blowing off. And the wonderful Bulleid exhaust
sounded just like it should!
Later, I went upstairs in the Goods Shed and looked through the photos
of some of those involved in past years. There were also some newspaper
extracts from the early days, before the MHR actually started operating
- very interesting indeed.
Congratulations, and my sincere thanks, to that young crew on
35005 and all the others throughout every department of the MHR who
have picked up the baton from those who started all this and have run
with it over 30 years to get to the present thriving concern. I cannot
be the only one who has received enormous pleasure from the MHR through
those years.
There is still something of the excitement about the Railway from the
early days - how many expected to see 75079 standing on the Cattle Dock
road at Alresford when they arrived this morning? I doubt that I shall
be around to celebrate the 60th anniversary, but there is so much to
look forward to in the next few years. Again my thanks to all those who
have made it possible.
Best regards
Keith Adams
From: John Cannon
Sent: 28 April 2007 20:50
Subject: 30th Anniversary Event
Tony
A good start to the 30th Anniversary event at Alresford Station
forecourt with several Morris sides performing against the backdrop of
the station with the first vintage car arrivals and vintage bus which I
hope the attached photo conveys.
A great day was had by the vast majority of attendees and it was a
really busy day on Alresford station for everyone.
John Cannon
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From: Charles Lewis
Sent: 28 April 2007 11:46
Subject: Best wishes for a memorable weekend
Tony
Can I just add my best wishes to those from Andy Crespin? Like Andy, I
was much involved in the early days, in fact I was one of the original
founders, and have been most interested in the old images on this site.
I really must try and find my own images which I used to show to
audiences all over Southern England at that time to raise awareness
(and money!) for the railway.
However, the memory which sticks out most in my mind was not so much
the activities of late April 30 years ago, and with all the work that
that entailed, but the defining moment in late 1975, a few days before
Christmas, when one of my fellow directors (David Vidler) and I were
sat upstairs in Alresford Station literally counting out the money that
had been sent to the railway in answer to the second share appeal. With
less than two days to go before the issue had to close, we counted the
money which took us past the minimum amount needed to get the project
off the ground. David simply turned to me and said: “I think
we’ve just bought ourselves a railway”. And so we
had.
Good luck to everyone involved with running the railway, for a
successful weekend.
Charles Lewis
From: Bill
Sent: 27 April 2007 17:49
Subject: Q and A:
Q1. Do I love the Watercress Line? Ans:
Most Definitely.
Q2. Am I grateful that it
exists? Ans: Of course.
Q3. Am I proud of its engines? Ans:
Again, grateful,
not proud, except of the bonny lads who keep them a'runnin!
Q4. Am I proud of ANY engines? Ans: You
bet!
And one time They were Here! With a few quirky bits, but
still
The Best!!
Q5. Was I born in Reading? Ans:
How d'you guess that??
Bill from the New Forest
From: Andy Crespin
Sent: 26 April 2007 08:24
Subject: Good Luck
Hi Tony
Well, now that the flood of old pics has stopped, I thought I would
just send a note to wish you all the best for the Anniversary Weekend.
It is a shame that neither of the locos in use that day will be running
on the railway, nor will any of the loco crews involved be there.
However, I will be thinking of you, and in my mind I will be there.
I was fireman on #196, ( Barry Eden was driving), which actually ran up
before the Opening
Special with #31874 on it.
As we pulled into Ropley station, Colin Fuller handed me a bottle of
Champagne: one of the best 'token' handovers I ever had there
!
Anyway, I hope the weather is kind, and I look forward to seeing the
pics on the site.
Regards
Andy
(in New Zealand)
From: Roger Stronell
Sent: 25 April 2007 09:05
Subject: Re: 34007
Tony
Thanks for using the videos.
Five million hits a month for your site. Congratulations.
I'm not surprised your site is popular. Your open minded approach to
submitted letters, photos, videos, etc. places you above so many other
sites that seem to be somewhat elitist in that they don't accept any
material submitted by "Joe Public" and frequently don't even answer
e-mails.
Keep up the good work
Roger
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